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Bullies only win when we let them…

We teach our children when they are very young to stand up to bullies; that if they stand up to them, most bullies will back down because they are cowards and prefer easy targets.  We also teach our children that we must always help someone that is being bullied and not just turn the other way.  Just recently, I have come to find out that some bullies never grow up and the internet is the perfect place to bully someone without needing the courage to even face your victims.

I wrote an article called “Anti Vaxxer” the new dirty word?” anonymously because I was worried about the backlash that I, and especially my family, may get from these internet bullies, and they did not disappoint…

“There is a reason you are all ridiculed and condemned – you threaten the lives of the community around you. Your ignorant, uneducated decision to eschew vaccines in favour of insanely stupid alternative therapies only deserves contempt.”

“If you refuse a whooping cough vaccine to an infant, and they then catch pertussis, there is a chance that they can die. Child killer indeed.”

” this is sheer nonsense, and only aids in adding to the froth that boils from the mouths of the anti vaccine crowd”

“Anti vaxers seem to get delight from the deaths of infants from VPDs”

“You are all to blame for this, not the government, not the media and certainly not those that oppose your very existence.”

“…you are a group of misinformed, tin foil hat wearing, slobbering  conspiracy theorists.”

“You are a bunch of fringe dwelling conspiracy theorists that have no social conscience”

There is more but it is not really worth repeating any more of this individual’s ranting of hatred and hostility. I think it is plainly obvious that his ranting only helped prove my point.

But what I now feel compelled to do is what I have taught my children to do: step up and face my bullies.

My name is Tasha David and I am the widowed mother of 8 children, 6 of whom were vaccinated and as a result, have neurodevelopmental and autoimmune disorders.  They have suffered from eczema, asthma, psoriasis, chronic ear infections, gastrointestinal disorders (ie chronic diarrhea, chronic constipation and urinary tract infections), food allergies and intolerances, and chemical sensitivities while my 2 youngest unvaccinated children have NONE of their sibling’s disorders.

My two youngest children are the picture of health. None of them have had antibiotics, and only one of them has needed to go to the doctor and that was just to check out the wax build up in his ears.  Watching them thrive is bittersweet. I look at the joy, excitement and wonder that they have for the world and think this is what my other children would have experienced if I had let them grow and develop naturally.

I am also one of the many members who make up the Australian Vaccination Network who have vaccine injured children and who the bullies out there want to silence.  They feel that we have no right to voice our concerns; that our personal experiences are meaningless, and that we shouldn’t even exist!

Who are they to say who has the right to be heard, let alone exist?

Why do they believe that only the information that they deem pertinent should be allowed in the public arena?

Do they not feel that people are capable of making up their own mind about what is right for their own families?

Just as two people can look at the same picture but have two different interpretations, it does not mean that one is wrong and one is right, it is just that they see things differently.

What may be right for your child may not be right for mine, so it is my job as a parent to make that choice for my child, I do not know your child so I have no right to even try to tell you what to do with yours. We all want healthy children, it’s just that we see different ways of achieving this.

What is so hard to understand about this?

I believe with all my heart that people should have the right to choose to vaccinate or not vaccinate, but the choice should always be theirs to make. When you fight to silence another person’s point of view because it contradicts your own then it shows that you do not have faith in your own convictions.

I write this today not for the bullies, but for the parents like me, who are feeling downtrodden, disheartened and persecuted. We cannot let the bullies win.  If we stop asking questions, sharing our personal experiences and supporting each other for fear of ridicule then they have already won.

We must stand up and support each other and ignore the insults and slights from those who would have us cower in fear, do as we have taught our children to do, stand up to the bullies together and take our power back.

We are not fighting for people to stop vaccinating, we are fighting for people’s right to hear all the information available and make their own choices.

I take heart from this quote from Mahatma Gandhi…

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won.  There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall.  Think of it—always.”

Horrible atrocities have occurred in our history when people are allowed to oppress others, and we lose our humanity when we allow this to happen.

This should be no person’s goal for another.

Tasha David

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‘Anti Vaxxer’ the new dirty word?

 

The author of this guest-blog has asked to remain anonymous due to her fear of being targeted by the Australian Skeptics and Stop the AVN. She is the parent of vaccine-damaged children – some of whom are on the autistic spectrum. She found Peter Bowditch’s assaults against families of vaccine-injured children to be incredibly disturbing. As a result, she chose to write about her fears regarding where society is headed when parents who love and cherish their children can be abused because of their health choices. If you agree that nobody has the right to treat another individual in this way, please make a supportive comment on this blog page. It doesn’t matter whether you are pro-vaccine, anti-vaccine or somewhere in the middle – any decent human being would have to accept that harassment, abuse and discrimination are never justified. Oppose Peter Bowditch and the incredibly vile comments of those who support him by speaking up for the right to make our own choices on this and all health issues. If you are on Twitter, please use the hashtag #DumpBowditch on your tweets to encourage Mia Freedman of Mamamia and other venues where this man publishes his hate-speech to no longer allow him an opportunity for abuse. Feel free to drop them a line as well, telling them how you feel about this issue.

Our history is full of people using terms to incite hostility, fear and resentment against other groups, and now is the age of the ‘Anti Vaxxer’ – the title given to people who question the safety and in some cases the necessity of vaccinations.

If you look in the newspapers or on the internet, you will see that people who question vaccine safety are ridiculed, condemned and discriminated against on quite a regular basis.  You might think, “Surely this behaviour is not promoted by supposedly intelligent, rational beings in this day and age?”, but unfortunately you would be wrong.

Just look at this list of recent quotes from newspapers such as the Daily Telegraph and blogs and articles from around the world…

“Parents who dodge vaccinating their kids are pocketing thousands of dollars”[1]

“…babies die because of the antivaccination movement.”[2]

“Bill Gates Says Anti-Vaccine Autism Groups “Kill Children” — And He’s Right”[3]

“NSW paediatrician Dr Chris Ingall added this: “We’re appalled at how many kids are getting whooping cough because the chardonnay set and the alternatives don’t vaccinate their children.”[4]

When did raising your child with love, respect, a healthy diet, plenty of fresh air, sunshine and exercise, while limiting their exposure to toxins become a crime?

If you listen to what these people are saying, anyone who does not vaccinate their child is a money grabbing, disease causing, child killer.

So who are these supposed child killers’?

Many are parents who have vaccine injured/killed children; some are educated and health-conscious individuals who want a more natural approach to good health; and some are alternative practitioners, doctors or scientists. Do any of these groups sound like child killers to you? What they all have in common is something that most of us take for granted: the belief that everyone deserves the right to decide what the best health choices are for themselves and their families

I find the hostile attitude towards parents of vaccine injured children particularly astounding, as parents of children that have been killed or disabled have always been treated with an outpouring of compassion, understanding and empathy. If the death or injury have been caused by a vaccine however, they are somehow no longer worthy of these basic human emotions.

Instead, we get open hostility and contempt as seen in the case of Peter Bowditch who asks vaccine-injured parents if they get sexual pleasure from seeing dead babies!

And how does our society respond to a man who can say such vile things?  Well, apparently it is no big deal, as he still continues to write articles for the popular women’s and children’s website Mamamia!  Is this the kind of individual who should be writing about women and children’s health?

Another very disturbing aspect to come out of this portrayal of ‘anti vaxxers’ is that the media, government and medical vaccine advocates are working together in promoting an ‘us’ versus ‘them’ mentality. These groups are actively condoning discrimination and in turn, persecution of the Australian Vaccination Network, it’s founder Meryl Dorey and anyone associated with them.  Is this what our true Aussie spirit is about now?  Be there for your mate but only if he vaccinates.

Persecute

1. To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs.

2. To annoy persistently; bother.

Discrimination

1. (Sociology) unfair treatment of a person, racial group, minority, etc.; action based on prejudice

Minority

a. A racial, religious, political, national, or other group thought to be different from the larger group of which it is part.

b. A group having little power or representation relative to other groups within a society.

We as a society believe that discrimination, harassment and persecution against minorities or any law-abiding citizen is unconscionable. Now however, it seems that it is acceptable if the minority or individual in question does not vaccinate to a government approved schedule.

What these harassers of ‘anti-vaxxers’ do not realise (or maybe they do) is that they are laying the foundation for persecution and repression of people that are just trying to raise their families in the healthiest way possible.

The path to repression begins with many small steps. It starts with the gradual wearing away of someone else’s rights through restriction of employment, public education, and government entitlements. Then comes ostracism whilst creating fear, hostility and resentment towards the group in question from the rest of society.  Not too soon after that, segregation comes in to the mix.

You may think that this is an unlikely scenario, but I cannot tell you how many times everyday mums and dads have told me to keep my children out of schools with vaccinated children; to stay out of public places where vaccinated people may be exposed to our disease-causing germs; some have even wished that all people who don’t vaccinate could be murdered or expressed a wish for their children to die from disease!

Countless times in history we have seen that ugliness in human nature breeds more ugliness.  Intolerance, discrimination, persecution, repression are all formed through fear and hatred.  Have we learned nothing from the past, or are we just so insecure that we always have to look for someone to oppress in order to make ourselves feel powerful and dominant?

If this type of hostility continues towards people who just want the right to make choices for their own families, what do we have to look forward to in the future?

 

 

 

 


[1] http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/vaccine-dodgers-win-big/story-e6freuzi-1226426099974

[2] http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/category/antiscience/page/78/

[3] http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/02/bill-gates-says-anti-vaccine-autism-groups-kill-children-hes-right/

[4] http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/doctors-warn-parents-to-keep-newborns-at-home-as-whooping-cough-epidemic-escalates/story-e6freuy9-1226055946293

 

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Pseudo-Skeptics Behaving Badly

You already know my opinion about the group that calls itself the Australian Skeptics. It is a misnomer for people who belong to the Australian Skeptics and their splinter group, Stop the AVN to call themselves sceptical. They are the least sceptical people on the planet since they only question anything that isn’t mainstream (they are to real scepticism as matter is to anti-matter).

You also know that many people who belong to both of these groups are abusive foul-mouths who can’t seem to complete a sentence or even string 2 words together without a liberal sprinkling of profanity. Many of these people will attack anyone they disagree with and regularly harass AVN members and anyone who has not vaccinated simply because of their belief that everyone should be vaccinated – end of story.

This sort of behaviour comes right down from the very top. From one of the ‘leaders’ of this movement –  a person by the name of Peter Bowditch. I first came across this self-professed ratbag over 15 years ago. At that time, the AVN was active in trying to help a gentleman by the name of Alan Yurko get out of prison in the United States.

Alan had received a sentence of life plus 10 years for the death of his infant child from Shaken Baby Syndrome (SBS) and his story was one that touched many  hearts both here in Australia and overseas.

There were so many things wrong with the case against Alan including the fact that his son actually died in hospital following a serious reaction to vaccination but, as still happens today, it was more convenient to blame the father than to examine medical procedures or health professionals so Alan got the blame and was thrown into prison for the rest of his life – plus 10 years (I could never work that out myself – would they really imprison a dead man?).

From prison, this extraordinary man started to research exactly what had happened to his baby and why his trial had gone so wrong. Within a relatively short period of time, he had amassed a huge support base from amongst the vaccination information groups and within the medial community. Everyone from pathologists to paediatricians to toxicologists to coroners looked over the court documents and said that the way in which his trial had been conducted was nothing short of fraudulent. His son’s internal organs had been replaced with those of another baby, the coroner had made many errors on his report and the child had been overdosed with Warfarin whilst in hospital, leading to internal bleeding which was then blamed on Alan Yurko.

In one of our very early newsletters, I asked our members to write letters of support to Alan who, at that time, was in solitary confinement in prison and really appreciated that little bit of kindness – especially from people living so far away.

I had only just gotten my first computer at about this time and email was still a new and exciting mystery to me. So when I received a very politely-written email from someone named Peter Bowditch asking me why the Vaccination Awareness Network (as we were called at the time when we were only operating in the area of Northern NSW) was supporting a child-killer, I took his email seriously and answered with the information I had about Yurko’s case.

In reply, I received an incredibly vile email (from memory) telling me that our organisation was supporting people who killed children so we must all be child killers too. Not only that, but he wrote to the warden of the gaol where Alan was imprisoned (and sent me a copy of that letter) stating that a letter-writing campaign was starting from Australia and asking if the warden could please stop any letters addressed to Alan from our country

I could not believe the cruelty involved in that sort of action and even though Alan Yurko was eventually cleared of all charges several years later, Bowditch still claims that he killed his son. Why? The answer to that question is only known to Bowditch who obviously feels that he knows more about this case then the authorities in the United States. To this day, he continues to call Alan Yurko a child killer and, as you will see, that judgement applies to anyone who questions vaccination or mainstream medical procedures as well according to Bowditch.

From that time in the mid to late 1990s to today, though Bowditch has written to me over the years, I have never responded to him. I did not want to have anything to do with an individual who would behave in this way so I simply ignored him and got on with what I needed to do. He has not done the same, having set up entire web pages to abuse me and anyone associated with the AVN.

Earlier this week, Bowditch wrote an article on the Mamamia website called The Anti-vaxxers reach a shocking new low.

In this article, he makes accuses me of doing certain things of which I am innocent and demands that the AVN change its name because he does not agree with us calling ourselves the Australian Vaccination Network since he considers us to be anti-vaccination despite all the available evidence to the contrary.

A day after the article appeared, I received a call from Howard Sattler’s producer at radio station 6PR in Perth asking if I would agree to be interviewed by Howard about this article and stating that Peter Bowditch would also be speaking. I agreed and wondered how the interview would proceed since I have heard how incredibly abusive Bowditch can be in this sort of situation. The only reason I agreed to participate in this show was because I know that Howard Sattler is a very fair-minded  individual who is in no way opposed to vaccination but has – what is a very rare trait in Australian media – a strong commitment to freedom of speech and transparency in all issues.

I will put a copy of this interview below so you can download and listen to it and I strongly urge you to both do this and to share this interview with others.

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Tomorrow, I will be writing a second blog highlighting all of the inaccuracies and incorrect statements spouted by this man (unlike Bowditch’s attitude towards myself and others he disagrees with, I will call them inaccuracies and errors – not lies) but today, I would like to ask you to read through a Twitter thread of a conversation Bowditch had with one of the AVN’s Facebook page members – a woman who has been seriously bullied by members of Stop the AVN.

In this thread, Bowditch (RatbagsDotCom) asks SAVNGodComplex (a woman whose sister was badly injured by medicine and whose child is vaccine-injured) about the sexual pleasure she and others who question vaccination get from dead babies.

 

 

 

 

I’m sure you will agree with me that this is an incredibly inappropriate conversation for a grown man to have with a woman whose only ‘sin’ is questioning a medical procedure.

During the interview linked above, Howard Sattler asked Bowditch about this Twitter conversation:

HS: Talking about abuse, (because Bowditch made the ridiculous claim that the AVN abuses those who vaccinate!) is your Twitter account RatbagsDotCom?

To which Bowditch replied, “It certainly is.”

HS- You’ve sent tweets off to people saying things like this: “How many dead children in a pile do you need to trigger a spontaneous orgasm?” Is that right?

PB – That’s right, yes. I’m waiting for them to answer that question. For some reason or other, they don’t.

Howard then went on to read through several of the other Twitter comments from this man (shown above). At no time, did Bowditch express the least regret or embarrassment about having spoken like this about caring parents.

Peter Bowditch has, for many years, held an esteemed and respected position with the Australian Skeptics. He has been a past President of the organisation and a regular guest at all sorts of events hosted by this group. He has had regular blog spots on, not only the Mamamia website (which deals, for the most part, with women’s issues, raising families and young children) but on other news sites where people have the right to know that the person who is setting himself up as an authority on an issue actually has a history of dealing with innocent people in this way.

Does Bowditch deserve respect? Does anyone who treats others in this way deserve anything but their disgust and ostracism? Should he be allowed to set himself up on blogs (especially blogs where women with young children will come across his rants) as an expert or social commentator on any issue at all?

Bowditch can claim that he cares about children and about the health of the community, but those claims become nothing more then hot air when you look at his actions which, to use a cliché, certainly do speak louder than any of his words.

Respect has to be earned and Bowditch has done nothing to earn the honours which he so obviously feels he is entitled to.

If I were involved with the organisations he is so active with – the Australian Skeptics and Stop the AVN – I would be kicking up a stink to ensure that the group disassociated itself from anyone who acts in such a shameful manner. Especially when there is no effort to apologise or make amends for this sort of abuse. Anyone can make a mistake, but when faced with the knowledge of how badly someone has acted, a person who has any conscience, any feelings of kindness for their fellow man, any remorse whatsoever, would unreservedly apologise for their actions. Bowditch has done none of this. Indeed, he seemed to be proud of his actions which is inexcusable!

Oh, and one last thing. For the first time since my initial email to Bowditch all those many years ago, I jumped in to the Twitter thread quoted above. I did not respond to Bowditch – but I did reply to the woman who I saw being abused and bullied so badly.

It was an ill-advised action on my part, but here is what I said:

 

I just could not believe any man treating a woman in this way – perhaps I was raised in a time when all people were expected to treat others with respect – whether they were male or female.

Bowditch’s response to me (though I did not address him at all – nor would I ever have contacted his wife and children though I hope he is kinder to them then he is to total strangers) was typical:

Memo to Meryl Dorey at the Australian Vaccination Network (28/4/2012)

Do not even suggest that anyone contacts my family. I realise that you have in the past harassed the family of at least one child who died of a vaccine preventable disease. But don’t start on me.

You might think you can get away with continual defamation of Australian Skeptics. You might think you can get away with continual lies about the activities of the members of Stop the AVN. What you will not get away with is involving my family in your insane campaign to harm children. If you don’t like me asking tasteless questions about dead babies then stop spending your days trying to increase the number of dead babies.

If you or any of your followers come near my family I will react and it will not end well for you. Don’t even suggest it in a joke. And if you think that’s a threat, think again. It’s a promise.

This behaviour is typical of the man and the abuse continues. Come on, Australian Skeptics and Stop the AVN! Do the right thing and get rid of any association you have with Bowditch and anyone else who behaves in this dreadful manner lest you be rightly tarred with the same brush.

Going Underground

During World War II, in the occupied territories of France, the Netherlands and many other countries that had been taken over by the Nazis, an underground movement grew which opposed the dictators and fought to bring back their elected governments. Working from the shadows, they found ways to circumvent the fascist dictatorship that ruled their countries. In the end, their efforts were an instrumental part of assisting the allied forces to claim victory in Europe.

Over it’s almost 225 year history, many Australians have fought and died in wars which were supposedly to protect freedom – whether the freedom of Australians or of our allies. Yet, I believe our government today is guilty of taking away or abridging many of the essential freedoms our fathers and grandfathers lived and died to preserve.

Though Australia is nominally a democracy, as I have explained in past blogs and articles, its law-enforcement and government bodies have chosen to turn a blind eye and ignore tort law in regards to the obvious bullying and interference with commerce and contractual relationships which have been perpetrated so openly by members of the Australian Skeptics and their splinter organisation, Stop the AVN. These organisations, science’s Brownshirts, are blatant in their opposition to freedom of speech and freedom of communication.

They want to take away our voice, burn our books and destroy our right to choose.  Just as the original Brownshirts wanted to blame the Jews for the institutional failures of Nazi Germany, these organisations want to blame complementary medicine and the unvaccinated for their own failure to promote health or prevent disease. As a result, they are losing the faith of Western society as evidenced by the fact that, though their treatments are free while others are costly, people are refusing to ‘drink their kool-aid’ because they know more about the risks and ineffectiveness then ever before.

Many of the members of these organisations are working hard to ensure that our right to choose natural therapies (see the activities of Friends of Science in Medicine for one example of these efforts) or to say no to vaccines or dangerous and potentially unnecessary medical treatments for our children is taken away.

As anyone who has been reading this list for any time at all would be aware, these bullies have also targeted the venues and locations where the AVN and other health freedom activists have been scheduled to hold seminars or public talks by:

1-    Contacting the venues and telling them lies about the organisation and people involved in an effort to get the venue to cancel contracts.

2-    Putting ads in local papers in opposition to these seminars or appearances.

3-    Targeting the event even if the vaccine safety group is not the organiser but simply the participant to try to get them to cancel the appearance (as evidenced by the recent Woodfordia Festival kerfuffle).

4-    Spending massive amounts of money (from where?) setting up stunts such as hiring an airplane to circle the venue towing banners.

5-    Intimidating attendees in advance by stating they will be there to ‘set the record straight’, implying a confrontation between themselves and the people who are coming to hear the speaker.

None of this should be allowed in a democracy but of course, when it comes to the issue of vaccination choice, government authorities and regulators seem more than willing to not only turn a blind eye towards these breaches of our laws, but in fact, can often be seen openly participating in them.

Another activist in the area of vaccination has also been copping flack from these abusive bullies at the Australian Skeptics and Stop the AVN. She is a woman who lost a child to vaccination. After close to 30 years of research and participation in the health freedom movement, she is now sharing her knowledge and experiences locally at small seminars she has set up herself.

Being aware of the targeting of these events, she has worked out a way to counter these pseudo-skeptical abusers – she has gone underground. At her latest talk yesterday, where 60 people were in attendance, she was able to exclude the trouble-makers by taking the following steps:

1. There were no tickets sales at the door.

2. All tickets were sold on-line or by credit card prior to the event.

3. No location was revealed until the night before the seminar – the only details were that it was held within a certain number of kilometers of a central location.

3. Mobile phone-numbers were required at the time of booking.

4. The venue location was notified by SMS the night prior to event.

In this way, she was able to keep not only herself, but those who came along to hear her speak, safe from the threats posed by these two groups.

Going underground is a valid and intelligent way to deal with those who break the law with the full cooperation of those who are meant to uphold it.

If we can’t rely on the police or the government to protect us from persecution, we have to take matters into our own hands and find ways to work around the institutional abuse apparently approved at the highest levels of our society.

SAVN’s Trouble With The Truth

There are many things that go on behind the scenes here at the AVN in regards to the attacks against our organisation and me personally which I don’t share or discuss with anyone outside of our committee. I am an inherently positive person and I don’t like to dwell on negativity or anger and Stop the AVN (SAVN), by its very nature, is both negative and angry all the time. In addition, there are many more important things I need to spend my time on so I choose to just go with the flow and ignore the ‘opposition’ as much as I can.

Something has come up in the last few days however which I felt I would like to share with you all. It has been a bit confusing and more than a little bit silly, but it is also indicative of how some individuals in this group can behave in a very immature manner when dealing with information and individuals they disagree with. The question being asked of me is – “Was I ever a stockbroker?” The question I ask in return is, “Why should SAVN care?”

One of the ‘movers and shakers’ of SAVN is a man by the name of Ken McLeod. He  has a long history of filing vexatious complaints against the AVN with government organisations, media outlets and anyone else he can possibly think of.

Over the last 2 years, McLeod has penned a 3-part series called Meryl Dorey’s Trouble with the Truth in which he lists all of the alleged lies I have told and why he considers them to be lies. For the most part, the ‘lies’ are simply statements I have made about vaccination or health that he disagrees with. This is because, to McLeod, those who say things he disagrees with must be lying. In his world, there are no shades of grey – everything he believes is white – everything he disagrees with are dirty black lies.

Ken McLeod has a daily tweet, sometimes more than 1 – sometimes 5 or 10 – called ‘Today’s lie from Meryl Dorey:’ In 140 characters or less, he takes something I’ve said and calls it a lie. That’s it. No proof – not even any sense. For instance, here are some of my alleged lies from the last week:

Today’s lie from Meryl Dorey: she’s “trying to amend legislation to support informed vaccination” (I’m assuming he ran out of room to put the word ‘choice’ at the end).

Today[‘]s Meryl Dorey lie: “majority getting whooping cough are fully vaccinated” This information came directly from the Department of Health and you can read it by clicking here.

Today[‘]s lie from Meryl Dorey: health authorities around the world trying to destroy an ethical doctor. This was in response to a blog post I had written supporting Dr Andrew Wakefield. Again, McLeod disagrees with this therefore, he calls it a lie.

The Great Share market Caper

One of the most striking examples of McLeod’s attempts to paint me a liar involves my previous history on Wall Street. There is one thing that I have heard him say over and over again during this period that would make me laugh at its ridiculousness. If it weren’t so defamatory and just plain wrong, it could almost be funny.

You see, Ken McLeod, a man who does not know me at all, a person I have never met or spoken with, has told everyone who will listen to his rantings, that I lied when I said I was a stockbroker on Wall Street.

His evidence for this alleged lie?

Well, he went to the FINRA Brokercheck website and searched for what he thought was my maiden name – Sokolovsky – and couldn’t find me there so he concluded I was lying.

Oh, he did try to write to me first to ask if I had been a stockbroker, but I did not respond so there was proof positive that I was lying, as far as he was concerned! (Please see email below)

From: “Ken McLeod” <email address removed as a courtesy>

Subject: WALL ST STOCKBROKER

Date: 27 March 2011 7:58:57 PM AEDT

To: “Meryl Dorey” <meryl@avn.org.au>

Dear Mrs. Dorey

In the Lismore Northern Star Weekend edition, September 18 2010, page 39, you describe your “career as a Wall Street broker that ended with the loss of her job in the 1987 stock market crash.”  I checked with  the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA), the independent regulator for all securities firms doing business in the United States.  They have no record of you having held a stockbroker’s licence, in your maiden name Sokolovsky.

FINRA have also informed me that a stockbroker is required to pass the FINRA  General Securities Representative Exam, (commonly referred to as the Series 7 Exam), to become a Registered Representative of a broker-dealer in the United States.  Would you mind informing me if you sat for that exam and the result please.

I would appreciate you providing me with any documentary evidence supporting your claim to have been a stockbroker, more properly called a “Securities Representative” in the USA.

yours sincerely

Ken McLeod

There are several problems with both his methods and conclusions:

1-        I do not respond to any emails from McLeod. In fact, I have told him this in the past and asked him to stop emailing me. He has refused to do so and I consider this to be harassment.

2-        The name Sokolovsky, though it was my father’s last name, was not mine. McLeod probably got the name from my father’s obituary because it lists me as one of my father’s daughters (Meryl Dorey of Australia), but I was born Meryl Sokole. My mother had shortened the name before I was born but they had never legally changed it so my dad was Sokolovsky and my sisters and I were Sokole.

3-        The FINRA Brokercheck website which McLeod used to deduce that I was lying about being a licensed stockbroker, specifically states that it will only provide information on brokers who were registered within the previous 10 years. I have been in Australia for 23 years. I lost my job in the 1987 crash and my registration expired 2 years after I left Wall Street – in 1989. So FINRA would not have provided any information on my registration status after 1999 – 13 years ago.

What has made me bring this up now?

Well, about two weeks ago, one of my friends jokingly put a note up on Twitter saying that the reason they couldn’t find any record of me on Wall Street was because they had the wrong last name. She said that if the research SAVN did on vaccination were as poor as the research they did on me, it’s no wonder they got everything wrong all the time!

The consternation was palpable. At first, they thought she was lying but when she persisted, the search was on! Finally, after about 3 days of relentless Googling, one of them came up with the right name. Instead of admitting they had been wrong and apologising or even being sheepish, they immediately said all of this was my fault because I hadn’t responded to Ken McLeod when he’d first asked me. As if I owe him an answer! Their sense of entitlement seems to be bottomless.

I thought that was all and the issue was settled, but 2 days ago, I started to get a slow but steady stream of emails. Please read below:

From: “Ken McLeod” <email address removed as a courtesy>

Subject: WALL ST STOCKBROKER

Date: 7 February 2012 7:27:17 AM AEDT

To: “Meryl Dorey” <meryl@avn.org.au>

Good morning Meryl

have you ever told anyone that you were a Wall St stockbroker?

regards

Ken

From: “Phil Kent” <email address removed as a courtesy>

Subject: fact check

Date: 7 February 2012 8:06:08 AM AEDT

To: <meryl@avn.org.au>

Good morning Meryl,

I would like to check something with you. I have heard that you were once a Wall St stockbroker. Is this true? Did you work on Wall St in any capacity; or as a stock broker elsewhere?

Thankyou for your time.

Regards,

Phil Kent.

From: Linda Hilton <email address removed as a courtesy>

Subject: A Question

Date: 7 February 2012 11:49:50 AM AEDT

To: Meryl Dorey <meryl@avn.org.au>

Good Morning Meryl

I would just like to trouble you with a quick question if I may.  Have you ever told anybody that you were once a Wall Street Stockbroker?

I appreciate your time.

Regards

Linda Hilton

From: Lola Thompson <email address removed as a courtesy>

Date: 9 February 2012 9:40:12 AM AEDT

To: “meryl@avn.org.au” <meryl@avn.org.au>

Reply-To: Lola Thompson <email address removed as a courtesy>

Meryl, I’m curious.

Did you ever tell anyone you were a Wall Street stockbroker?

From: Heidi White <email address removed as a courtesy>

Subject: Concerning rumors

Date: 9 February 2012 9:55:39 AM AEDT

To: meryl@avn.org.au

Dear Ms Dorey,

I am emailing you with concerns I have about some rumors doing the rounds. The claim is that you were once a wall street stockbroker. Have you ever told anyone you used to be a stockbroker? I know you’ve mentioned living in New York, so is this claim could indeed be fact. What would be concerning is if this has been fabricated. I know we disagree on a number of health issues, but this doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be concerned with gossip which is potentially mis-representing you. Do you know where these whispers could have come from?

With regards

Heidi White

I don’t know any of these people personally and have never corresponded with any of them. In fact, I have never even heard of Lola Thompson! Yet, as you can see, all of these letters are very similar.

For those who care, I obtained my Series 7 Stockbroking license in late 1978 – early 1979 (I don’t remember exactly, but it was Winter). A year later, I sat for and passed the Series 63 ‘Blue Sky’ license as well. I started on Wall Street as a receptionist at a brokerage firm where I worked whilst attending College at night. From there, I moved to listed sales (shares that traded on the New York and American Stock Exchanges) and eventually, to the Over the Counter (OTC) trading desk at 2 firms where I worked until the market crashed in 1987 when I and tens of thousands of other brokers and traders were thrown out of work.

I came to Australia in 1988 with my new husband and my licenses expired in 1989.

As a courtesy to those who wrote to me (please see emails above), I am removing the email addresses from this blog post. Perhaps SAVN would consider giving AVN supporters the same courtesy.

Letters to Woodford and sponsors part 2

Below are more letters that our wonderful, positive, intelligent and creative members have sent in to the Woodford festival and their supporters.

I have just had a thought about all of this that I wanted to share with you. There are over 400 performers and speakers at Woodford this year. I don’t know if that is about average or high or low, but let’s assume that every year, there are at least that many. Many of those performers and speakers are controversial – Philip Nitschke, a raft of politicians from all political viewpoints, comedians etc.

When sponsors give money to Woodford and when Woodford has these performers and speakers at the event, are they endorsing what they say or are they just having them there because they are interesting and people want to hear what they say or view their act? Are sponsors supporting each individual performer or are they simply supporting the Festival as a whole?

I believe they are supporting the Festival and these attempts to make them withdraw their support because of one speaker who some people disagree with equals censorship – plain and simple.

Not only that, but the idea of running this sort of action to prevent someone expressing a point of view on a political issue is frightening in any democracy. Today, we are told we can’t discuss the downside of vaccination in case someone listens and decides it might not be for them. Tomorrow, it could be education we’re no longer allowed to discuss, or nuclear power, or whaling or any other issue with strong pros and cons. Think about it.

Next, I am having trouble keeping up with blogging all of these letters and that’s great! I still haven’t counted how many there are but it is well over 100. I have a large number sitting in my inbox that need to be put up on our blog and I will get to them soon. But if you haven’t written, please do take the time (look at the next blog post for the details). We need to get overwhelming support – not just for the AVN – but for the Woodford Folk Festival as well. This is such a worthy group – they need all our help. Please continue to copy me into your responses at meryl@avn.org.au.

AVN – let them be heard at Woodford

To Whom It May Concern

I want to thank you for putting Meryl Dorey from the Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) on the program this year. I realise that this is a very emotive and contentious area and that there will be many people who do not want her to speak.

It is vital that the facts about vaccination are available for everyone to make an informed choice. The AVN provides much needed information on latest research and findings about the efficacy and the risks associated with vaccines.

I would like you to know that the AVN is fantastic volunteer organization that has helped my family (and many others) as we run the gauntlet of mainstream media and medical systems with questions about vaccines and their associates reactions and damage.

Meryl is determined, passionate and fair in her resolve to give parents factual information about vaccination.  I know her research gives me continued zeal in making the best possible health choices for my family.  Please allow Meryl to share her message with the folks at Woodford in 2011.

Regards

JC

AVN discussion at Woodford

Hi all,

It has been brought to my attention that there is opposition to Meryl Dorey from AVN speaking at Woodford this year.

I fully believe and promote freedom of speech as a basic human right for all and can only encourage you to have the courage to stand in the face of the opposition and allow those who wish to attend the discussions to do so.

I have been a homebirth midwife for nearly 30 years and have often directed inquiring parents to the AVN to gain information about vaccination prior to making any decisions around the issue.

I am also the mother of four (now adults) who were not vaccinated as children and are all supremely healthy beings.

Please stand strongly and do not allow the AVN’s voice to be gagged. The community need to be able to hear both sides of the vaccination debate prior to making possibly life-changing decisions for their babies and children.

Yours for a free speaking community,

SC, RM

Vaccination 

There is a real need in the community for information on the other side of the vaccination issue.

Stop the AVN (SAVN)  are once again trying to censor this side of the issue. Through one of their main spokespeople – a prominent character with both the Australian Skeptics and SAVN, they have started a campaign on the internet via blogs, their Facebook page and emails.

In a democracy we have a right to choice …

Both sides of an issue must be heard

Please ensure that informed choice and freedom of communication is supported.

JH

So glad

Hi Bill.

Just shooting a quick email to say I’m so glad to hear you are having a representative of the AVN speaking this year- because of this my family and our business hope to support the festival and come next year.

I think the options need to be shared, the truth spoken and people then can make informed choices. i applaud you for enabling this !

cheers,

LB

Woodford Festival

Dear Organisers

Due to the AVN and their efforts I was alerted to the concerns with vaccinations.

Then due to personal experience our family chooses not to vaccinate our children through the medical paradigm.  Our neighbour’s child also passed away from SIDS the night their baby was vaccinated.

Our family uses a method which we believe protects our children from harm from disease and also from certain ingredients in the vaccinations themselves.

I have personally have read four books from very highly regarded sources.  The research of Dr Isaac Golden and Dr Mayer Eisenstein on the vaccination issue is extensive and impeccable.

It is crucial that the Australian Vaccination Network educates the public on the questions regarding the safety of vaccinations and the Woodford Festival is an appropriate medium to help spread this vital information as other areas in the public arena seek to protect their own interests and not of our children.

‘First do no harm’ is the primary principle for public health from which all decisions should be based upon.  The precautionary principle should always prevail.

Yours sincerely

DF

Please continue to support information parents need to hear on vaccination      

Dear Bill and all,

Please please continue to let Meryl speak up on the hotly contested issue of vaccination at the Woodford Festival.

Her voice is the one small minority presenting the ugly side of vaccinations that people (*with* money connections) continue to try to shut down.

I am aware of the huge pressure you have come under to cancel her appearance – please stand up for the right to know.

I have chosen *not* to vaccinate my four children, after conducting careful research about the pros and cons.

Thankfully the efforts of people to educate on vaccination now means we at least have recommendations to use vaccinations that are free of mercury preservatives.  That is, recommendations in the main-stream health channels!

That is just one small reason why voices like Meryl’s need to continue to be heard.

Thank you,

JT

Importance of the AVN being at the Woodford Folk Festival…

Hi, I am a parent and just want to share with you my thought’s on allowing the AVN to be  aired at the Woodford Folk Festival…I believe there is a real need in the community for information on the other side of the vaccination issue.

All parents need information on this issue to be able to make an informed choice for their family as we have done.

We have personally done alot of research into both sides of Vaccination Debate..and I believe all the community should be able to  have information available…in the community, as your Folk Festival would suggest .

Thank you for you time…

PNH and family

AVN presentation at Woodford

Dear Sir/Madam,

I have recently come to understand that you are being pressured or have been pressured to disallow the AVN from presenting information at your festival from the other side of the vaccination debate.

This I feel is a most unfortunate situation for you to be in as all information is valuable in regards to this highly debated subject.

I personally have brought up 3 children into adulthood without allowing vaccinations at all and as a consiquence we never once had to take our boys to a doctor. The first time one of them did go to a doctor was after a swimming accident when he was 16 years old. I can vouch for the safety and health of unvaccinated children from this first hand experience and I believe that free choice in the matter is paramount and that allowing an AVN presentation is valuable to assist parents and adults make an informed choice

Yours sincerely

NO

For some extra information from the www.healingwell.com websight

— An unpublished study by the World Health Organisation (WHO) on a “measles susceptible” (malnourished) group of children showed that the group who hadn’t been vaccinated contracted measles at the normal contract rate of 2.4%. Of the group who had received the measles vaccine (MMR), 33.5% contracted measles.

— In 1975 Japan raised the minimum age for infant vaccinations to 2 years. As a result, SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, or, crib death) and infant convulsions virtually disappeared. In the 80’s, Japan lowered the minimum age back down to 3 months and the rate of SIDS returned to previous levels.

— In an Australian study, a group of recruits were immunized for Rubella, and all produced the expected antibodies. When later exposed to the disease, 80% of the recruits contracted it.

— According to the U.S. National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (est.1986): To qualify for compensation, the adverse effects of vaccination must occur within four hours of receiving the vaccine. Despite this extremely severe limitation, as of February 28, 1998 compensatory payments have totalled $871,800,000.00. This figure is even more alarming when it is revealed that only one in four claimants were awarded compensation.

— Some researchers postulate that the use of live viral vaccines introduce foreign genetic material into the human system, which has contributed to the unprecedented escalation of auto-immune disorders (like multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, cancer, Crohn’s disease, asthma, etc.) in recent decades.

The above facts each highlight a different facet of the immunization question; effectiveness, adverse effects, and long-term consequences. The unspoken thread running through each of these is a pressing question: Why haven’t more people been informed of this evidence, and indeed, why is vaccination presented carte blanche as a positive, imperative requisite for our children’s health?

NO

Folk Festival

Thank you for presenting Meryl Dorey on stage at the Woodford Festival. It is a long way from the NSW/Vic   border where I live, but if I can possibly make it I will get up there.

She was so helpful to me many years ago when I didn’t realize I had a choice about immunization and went ahead with the doctor’s direction that it was “time” for baby’s vaccination.  Bad decision!  Severe adverse reactions , convulsions, hospitalization  and meningitis leaving her with brain damage. The AVN and Meryl Dorey guided me with information about the conscientious objector’s form which allowed me to receive the government child payment which they had refused earlier because I discontinued with further vaccination.

She is definitely not anti-vaccination, but all for free choice.

Vaccination must never become compulsory in our wonderful free country.  It that happened, what would be next?

Thank you sincerely,

JH

Support for Festival

Hi there.

I just wanted to show my support for Meryl Dorey who, being from the Australian Vaccination Network is scheduled to present at the Festival. Meryl will not be there to make decisions for people and tell them what they should and shouldn’t do regarding vaccination. She is going to inform people of a different point of view and let her audience make informed decisions for themselves.

Your website says:

“The festival is a place you can escape from ‘reality’ and immerse yourself in cultures from near and far. It is a place where artists inspire, community spirit engulfs and life memories are made. We hope you will join us.”

The Festival seems to be a very cultural and open place and to be where people can express their own opinions and their own uniqueness in their creative expressions.

I ask that you include Meryl in the Festival as she has been a major source of help and encouragement to thousands of people, including our family, in shedding light upon a very contraversial issue.

We chose not to vaccinate after our second son would stop breathing numerous times throughout the day for no apparent reason. Through further investigation, we discovered that if we vaccinated him he would very possibly have died while he was asleep as he had very weak bronchial tubes and one of the vaccines can slow the airways.

We did not take this opposing view of not vaccinating lightly. I have spent 7 years reading thousands of pages of material expressing both points of view. Whilst I see the reasoning behind vaccination, we chose not to for the benefit of our own family. Our 6 children are all very healthy even without vaccinations.

The Australian Vaccination Network has been a great encouragement with making more information available and for answering the many questions that our family has had over the years. They are invaluable to Australians everywhere and it would be a tragedy to see them silenced.

As Australian’s we pride ourselves in being a ‘free’ country where we are able to express ourselves under ‘freedom of speech’. When we stop letting people share their opinions, we begin to take this freedom away and we are only a few steps away from a dictatorship. We live in a very beautiful country with wonderful people of many different and diverse cultures. We are all unique and we should be able to listen to others as intellectual people and filter the information received to make informed decisions.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope that you will still allow Meryl to speak. She deserves to be listened to.

DC

Woodford Folk Festival –  Autism Emergency Seminar

To The Woodford Folk Festival

I’m writing in regards to the Autism Emergency seminar that Meryl Dorey is presenting at the Woodford Folk Festival.  It is my understanding that this seminar is in jeopardy of being pulled from the Festival for no apparent reason.

I would like to appeal your decision to pull this seminar based on the following:

The Woodford Folk Festival has grown by leaps and bounds since I lived in Brisbane.  The Festival is a mixture of old traditions, spirituality and open-mindedness.  When I lived there, I know many people who opposed going to the Festival because it was “weird”.  It fell out of the “norm” for most of the people I knew at the time.

Your Sponsors, in my opinion should understand the open-mindedness of this Festival.  They sponsor to market their product or service because of the number of people who attend.   They hope that we, the public will be interested in purchasing from them.  Thus, they should be respectful of us, our differences, our traditions, our spirituality and our open-mindedness.  That is the nature of the Festival.

We live in a country which is suppose to offer free speech and free religion. This means an individual has the choice to make their own decisions. They can listen and participate in an event or not. Once we begin to censor information, individuals no longer have a choice. If you pull this seminar, what message are you sending to us, the people?

Today, with so many avenues of information, it is becoming difficult to get to the “truth” on many subjects.  Vaccinations is one of the controversial subjects where information is lacking.

The Government is not providing adequate information regarding the facts and the risks.  They are protecting the Pharmaceutical Companies through Government Laws, Commercial Laws and Labeling Laws.

In addition, in my opinion, the Pharmaceutical Company’s top priority are to their share holders; not the protection of children.  They have one goal which is to make money.

As a parent of (3) children, I have a duty to ensure I’m making good choices. My children have to live with the choices I make which could change the course of their lives forever.

When my oldest child was born, she had the Vitamin K injection. I thought it’s a “Vitamin” until I read the Manufactures Insert. I was wrong.  There was more in the vial than Vitamin K (e.g. formaldehyde). Also, the insert said, 1 in 10,000 babies could die of hemorrhaging.

After the injection, 1 in 500 could get leukemia. Why is this product on the market?  I do not know.

No one told me risks. Had I known, I would NOT have allowed the Vitamin K shot. My child has speech difficulties and auditory processing issues.

No, I cannot prove the Vitamin K injection created this.

But I cannot prove the Vitamin K injection helped either.

This was my turning point regarding Vaccinations.

I have read a plethora of information regarding them in addition to the history of the diseases.   I have read medical journals, chemistry books, etc. to educate myself about the human body.  I have read herbal books and other alternative health books, etc.

I have concluded there is not enough information (e.g. risks) nor research done regarding Vaccinations.  Firstly, Vaccinations have not undergone the double-blinded placebo controlled trials.  Second, Vaccinations have not been tested on the reproductive system.  I have more reasons which I will not go into here.

Thus, I have chosen not to Vaccination my children.

Lastly, we have seen in the past person’s who have stood for their beliefs before the majority.  They were ostracized, condemned to death, vindicated, crucified, etc.  Today, we should be able to discuss with respect and without hostility or threats controversial subjects anywhere.

I hope you find this letter informative as well as positive in nature.

KVM

AVN to speak at festival

Hello Bill and Ingrid

I am writing this because Meryl from AVN has sent out an email saying that there are concerns about her speaking about vaccinations at the festival.

I very much support her being able to talk about these issues.  I have selectively vaccinated my children but I chose to not vaccinate them with every vaccination available.

I once believed that vaccinations were always beneficial until I met a family with 2 children who were harmed by vaccines and whose GP advised against further vaccinations.  Places like AVN allowed me to read about the other side of the argument.  I am often mystified by the vitriol hurled at people who dare whisper the question ‘are vaccines always safe all of the time’. I would never dream of telling another person what medical procedures they should have or not have.

I appreciate people like Meryl having the courage to raise her concerns about vaccinations.  My dream is that researchers will get serious about identifying why some people are so harmed by vaccinations and others experience little or no side effects so that truly safe ways of preventing disease are developed.  Vaccinations may or may not be part of that but the issue is that if there is no me to give voice to the problems how can we ever find a solution.

I hope that Meryl is able to speak at the festival.

Kind regards

AW

Allowing Free speech at the Festival 

Dear Woodford Festival Promotors,

Each year I have relatives who attend your festival, although I have never attended myself.

I am sure there is a diverse range of exhibitions and stalls allowing people to show their wares, dance as they may see fit and speak of any subject they should desire.

However, vaccination appears to be another matter altogether.

I have been researching vaccinations for over 14 years and I am now completely opposed to them.  My biggest worry in life is that my grandchildren will be damaged or killed by vaccination.

In fact the more you study this subject the more alarming it all becomes.   Vaccines now cause great anxiety and arguments in families and they have destroyed the joy of childbirth by the dangerous and unecessary vaccines given to newborns.  There are many tragic stories for those who want to do their own research.

Those who speak out against vaccines are persecuted by those who have a financial interest in their continuation, or those who ignore the science that they are dangerous and cause many deaths, health problems and life long suffering.  We all now know a child with cancer, asthma, autism or diabetes, something that did not happen until vaccination was commenced in the 1950’s.

Even parents who have seen the dramatic plunge into Autism after vaccinations are ignored.

PLEASE for the sake of free speech and the health of our little children allow any person who approaches you to speak freely on vaccinations, so that both sides of this story can be considered by those wanting to know more about this vital subject.

Sincerely,

BP

Grafton NSW.

Woodford Festival and Freedom Of Speech

Hi Ingrid,

I’ve watched this single minded attack by the Skeptic’s Association on the AVN for some time now, and for the life of me cannot understand why an organisation simply presenting an alternate point of view in a supposed ‘free’ country, takes so much heat?  So much so that an academic was moved to write an entire study paper on the ferocity of the attack from both individuals and the media.

Are vested interests under threat?

I have met the founder of the AVN several times (Meryl Dorey) and know she is a person with a good heart, good intentions, an avid researcher and simply wishing to present an alternate point of view to that of the medical juggernaut, so that parents can make an informed decision.  We need to have rigorous debate about this issue, not one-sided pharma-funded marketing hype that lines shareholder’s pockets.

As a parent myself I simply wanted to know benefits and risks of vaccination.  When my wife was pregnant we did months of reading and research.  I am not against immunisation at all, for to be so would be to argue that once we ‘catch’ something we don’t build up immunity.  However as I did my research, the thought of sticking needles into my sons (now 40 combinations on the schedule by the age of 4!) simply didn’t feel ok to invade their delicate immune systems in such a way.  I only had smallpox, diphtheria and polio when I was a kid (with the polio on a sugar cube!), so why our children now have to have 40 different vaccinations is a mystery.

Consequently we chose to use homeoprophylaxis (homeopathic immunisation) for our boys, and even though the Skeptic’s Association says homeopathy is bunkum, I have seen it work first hand on my children with extraordinary results.

As an example, when a bout of whooping cough hit one of the kids in our eldest son’s primary school, we called our homeopath and asked for a homeopathic ‘booster’ for the whole family. We picked it up and inside the envelope was a note that in some sensitive people, after 24hrs of taking the booster, whooping cough-like symptoms sometimes occur for a couple of hours. Frankly we didn’t take much notice of the note!

Well, the next day almost 24hrs to the dot, our 2yo developed a strange cough.  We called the homeopathic clinic who advised us this was normal and a sign the remedy was working. Sure enough the symptoms disappeared after a few hours.  So if there’s ‘nothing’ in homeopathy and it’s only ever a placebo, how can a 2yo firstly understand what a placebo is, and secondly develop the symptoms as predicted and only for a few hours, then self-clear?  A placebo effect doesn’t make any sense in this scenario, however a predictive response from the homeopath that actually happened, does! And our 2 sons are healthy beyond belief with no allergies, asthma, eczema, ADD, ADHD etc etc.

Whether you agree or disagree with either side of the vaccination debate isn’t what is at stake here.  It’s more to do with choice and allowing people to be informed so they are better able to make their own choice.

If there’s anything you can do to ensure freedom of speech at Woodford and stop this mindless attack on an organisation that is simply filling a gap for parents, who want more objective information other than that put out by pharmaceutical companies, then please do!

Many thanks,

JB

AVN Speaking at woodford

To Whom It May Concern,

I have been an attendee at Woodford over the many years that it has been running – first attending with my parents as a child when it was held at the Maleny Showgrounds.

Woodford has always been known not only for its fabulous music but also as a venue where guest speakers talk on a variety of issues and topics. Having attended many of these in the past I am always impressed that the topics are interesting and thought provoking and aim to expand the knowledge of the people attending. Often presently a view point that is rarely heard.

I was delighted to hear that AVN was speaking at Woodford and I am very disappointed to hear that there is a possibility of AVN’s attendance being cancelled due to objections from others on the content.

Why would the Woodford committee considering cancelling?

There will always be people who disagree and surely many of your other presenters will probably have people who disagree with the content that they are presenting also – but free speech and the sharing of information for both sides of any debate is critical and Woodford has always provided an avenue for this.

AVN has always been not about anti vaccination but about ensuring that people are informed. AVN is one of the few if only places that is able to provide well researched information on the disadvantages associated with vaccination. The AVN presentation will be intelligent, thought provoking and well researched.

Allow AVN to speak.

Your Sincerely,

KB

Meryl Dorey at Woodford Folk Festival…support!

Hi Bill

I just read this blog http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/woodford-folk-festival-allows-dangerous-anti-vax-woman-to-speak/ by Peter Bowditch, which included your interview with Rick Morton and I just wanted to drop you a line to say how impressed I was to read your responses.

I have listened to both sides of the vaccination story and now assess each individual vaccine on the schedule on an individual basis and am relieved and grateful to have found the wealth of information the AVN gives out, as our mass media deliberately portrays only the other side of this issue.  I honestly don’t mind what people decide to do for themselves or their families but I strongly believe that Meryl Dorey and the AVN need to have a stronger voice in the community so people can at least make an informed decision about this issue.  Thank you for sticking to your guns and giving that opportunity to the people attending your festival.  If was in QLD, I would be there with bells on.

Kind regards

GJ

Support for Woodford and sponsors

Hi,

We just wanted to let you know that we completely support the Woodford festival and its sponsors for allowing the issue of vaccination to be aired, and having Meryl Dorey there to provide people with such important information. As parents, we choose not to vaccinate our children, having researched in depth after our firstborn reacted negatively to her initial shots. We feel huge gratitude towards Meryl Dorey for her tireless efforts to make the other side of vaccination heard. It’s amazing that people have such a violent reaction to someone speaking out against vaccination- but with so much propaganda to actually promote it, we feel it is absolutely necessary. Freedom of choice means having access to all information!

Thank you,

RTN

Don’t censor the debate!

Hi

In relation to the attempted censorship of the AVN seminars at the folk festival this year I would like to voice my concern.

I commenced researching the topic of vaccination before my child was born last year.   My research lead me to the AVN which enabled me to access a whole world of literature and DVD’s by authors with various backgrounds.   People with personal experiences, to medical doctors with their own research to researchers dedicated to investigating everything about the history and current research findings about vaccines and insight regarding vaccinations, the government, drug companies, the medical industry and everything related to this topic.

I purchased a lot of media about all things you would never have known about vaccines and also the homeopathic approach to preventing infectious disease of which I would never had been able to access any of this material without finding the AVN.

After doing a lot of research I decided not to have my child injected with or any other means of putting medical vaccines into her body, she is a bubble of joy going from strength to strength at an accelerating rate.

I strongly feel that being a democratic developed country that all people have the right to access everything the AVN has to offer being all the literature from around the world and including presentations at public events like your festival.   There is a whole world of knowledge and scientific research about the things people should be able to know about vaccines.

I would like put forward to your organisation my recommendation that the censorship of AVN at this years festival and all future festivals should not be allowed.

I have travelled to attend the festival on previous occasions and I would recommend to my friends and family that the festival is worth attending to enable access to seminars and literature offered by the AVN, among all the other wonderful things on offer at the festival.

Thanks for considering my concern and opinion.

Regards

KM

Vaccination debate

To the organizers of the Woodford Folk Festival,

I have attended the Woodford Folk Festival each year for the last ten years and it has come to my attention that you may be under some pressure to not let Meryl Dorey speak.

I would like to encourage you to stand firm and allow freedom of speak on such important topics and information.

Kind regards

Woodford folk festival: anti vaccination speech

Hi,

I have always loved folk music. It sings about honesty, about goodness, about emotions and about people.

It sings about being good to people by the people for the people.

Meryl has constantly stood alone against the might of the corporatized pharmaceutical organisations and government machinery to have her voice heard because she believes that vaccination has hurt her child before and all she is asking now is for fairness for others to hear her story and decide for themselves. I think we should give the people a chance to decide for themselves and not let fear rule the day.

After all she is doing to save children, the heart and soul of the movement.

Contrary to what you may have heard, there is growing amount of literature and studies showing that vaccination is not as safe as one thought. Do you know vaccines have never been monitored/tested clinically on a mass scale before their release to the public?

The foundation of science rests on verifiable repeatable events. Vaccination has never been verified in this manner. The growing oppositions does not come only from concerned mothers or fathers, but from doctors, scientists, medical professionals and applied scientists.

Please give the people a voice,  give Meryl Dorey    a chance to speak.

“Like Judas of old

You lie and deceive

You’ve thrown the worst fear

That can ever be hurled

Fear to bring children

Into the world

For threatenin’ my baby

Unborn and unnamed

You ain’t worth the blood

That runs in your veins ”

Bob Dylan

Thank you.

Yours truly,

PT

AVN RIGHT TO SPEAK AT WOODFORD FESTIVAL

TO THE ORGANISERS AND SPONSORS OF WOODFORD FESTIVAL

Vaccines contain toxic substances that are tolerated by most, but not all children. Why else would the Australian Immunisation Handbook in the section dealing with “Valid Consent” talk about “the potential risks and benefits” and “medical conditions that contraindicate vaccination”? Why does the USA have a compensation fund that all vaccine manufacturers are required to contribute to in order to fund claims from the parents of medically recognised vaccine damaged children? Many years ago, all of our children had their vaccinations and fortunately there were no adverse reactions. I am a grandparent, but if I had my time over again, I would selectively vaccinate my children on the basis of their risk of contracting a specific illness. However, I would be thinking, please don’t let it be my child that has a bad reaction. I am aware my ability to choose individual vaccines is now quite limited as many vaccines are combined and unavailable separately.

I have read literature by Dr Tinus Smits M.D (deceased) in the Netherlands who treated, over something like 25 years, many vaccine damaged children. He used the term vaccinosis. Dr Smits was quite successful in many cases using homoeopathic remedies made from the vaccines. He found that sometimes a child would react to stabilisers, fillers or preservatives in the vaccines and not the infective agent. I am also conversant with published literature by Dr Isaac Golden who did his PhD at Swinburne University on longitudinal data collected for more than 10 years from homoeoprophylaxis (alternative to vaccination) patients.

I am very concerned that attempts to prevent the AVN from speaking at your Festival represent a diminution of the democratic right of people to hold an opposing view. Also, the right of all parents to be aware of an opposing view, in order for them to make informed and responsible choices on behalf of their children.

Similar attempts were made in Western Australia when the AVN attempted to hire a venue to address the public following a case of severe brain damage said to have been incurred after a child received a flu shot. Many other children in WA and in the other Australian States had adverse reactions from flu shots. After losing one venue the AVN was successful in hiring the Alexander Library lecture theatre.

I sincerely hope the Woodford Festival committee, and its sponsors, support the right of responsible freedom of expression and recognise that all Australian parents need to make responsible choices based on a level playing field free from any form of intimidation

PH

Meryl Dorey AVN

Hi Bill

Just a quick note to thank you for allowing Meryl to give the freedom of choice point of view at your Festival.

I personally did not vaccinate my children against whooping cough (many years ago, as the oldest is now 34).  Back then it was freely reported that there could be a connection between whooping cough vaccination and epilepsy.  As my niece, who was three then, had been severely epileptic since seven months of age, my doctor advised me against it.  Even back then, there was whooping cough in my children’s pre-schools a few times, but my kids didn’t get it.

I saw Lisa on Today a week or so ago, talking about this issue with Karl and Georgie (their surnames escape me).  Lisa said all three of her children, fully vaccinated, got whooping cough.  Also, she said she had a friend who has a child with autism, who believes there is a possibility of a connection to vaccination.  Karl said “So, are you saying, if you had a baby now, you wouldn’t vaccinate?”  Lisa said, “No, I would, but I just believe people should be informed.”  I agree with her.  People should be allowed to  be informed

Best of luck with the coming Festival.  I’m sure you don’t need it, except perhaps for the weather.

Kind regards

MS

AVN Presentation at Woodford festival

Dear Woodford festival organiser,

I have been made aware by Meryl Dorey from the AVN that there has been a number of actions by the “Stop the AVN” organisation who are trying to silence open discussion in regards to vaccination to the Woodford festival.

I would like to encourage you to openly welcome Meryl to speak at the festival as the AVN has been instrumental in promoting an open debate in regards to vaccination and providing accessible unbiased information to Australian parents and health practitioners.

As a tertiary educated parent of three children (who have never been vaccinated), I undertook substantial research in regards to whether or not to vaccinate my children and unfortunately the medical profession only provides biased information which has been “sold” to them by the very pharmaceutical companies manufacturing the vaccines.  In addition the medical profession quickly deserts parents whose children have had an adverse reaction from vaccination as I have heard from numerous parents.

My children have to date experienced superior health in comparison to the majority of their peers and I am confident that this has in part been due to not having their immune systems compromised by the toxins included in vaccinations.  They have not had recurrent ear and other viral infections like the majority of their friends not any other “childhood” illness.

As a democracy I believe open debate in regards to important issues, including health choices, should be encouraged and I would urge you to ensure that Meryl has an opportunity to present important information in regards to the vaccination debate at your festival

Yours sincerely

SC

Freedom of Speech at Woodford

Hi there Woodford Folkers,

I am writing to express my gratitude towards you and the festival for being a consistent forum for alternative and underground music, art forms, and points of view.  I have been to the festival a number of times (travelling all the way from W.A. with my partner and kids) and have even applied to perform there in the past.  In addition to the sounds of Dya Singh, the sights of Mr. Om, and the smells of the Chai Tent, I have enjoyed talks on topics of importance (such as Graeme Sait on soil health and human health, and David Holmgren on peak oil).

I have heard through the grapevine that some vocal anti-democratic groups are pressuring you to end your tradition of providing insightful and alternative lectures.  I wanted to let you know that I am among the tens of thousands of Woodford fans that turn up each year precisely to cartwheel and samba over such stifling conformity, and fully support your role as a forum for the alternative.

Without healthy debate, challenging art forms, and experimental sounds life would become a very un-Woodford-like beige.

Thanks again,

SC

Thank you for standing strong & allowing a dissenting voice to be heard

Dear Bill,

I’d like to personally thank you for standing strong on allowing a dissenting voice to be heard – Meryl Dorey’s at the AVN.

Our family have recently had a negative experience with the medical profession at in a NSW Hospital ER and Meryl’s advice on the matter has been fair & pro choice for “consumers”. I can assure you, that the Director of the hospital we met with is NOT pro-choice and actively supports his doctors “giving patients enough information to make the right decision .. the decision we want them to make.” These Doctors do not give people enough information to make an informed decision (for themselves and their family), and in some case (ours in particular) it is malpractice.

Thank you, once again, for standing strong & allowing a dissenting voice to be heard.

Sincerely,

AD

The Blue Mountains NSW

Vaccination Choice

It has been brought to my attention that threat are being made against a proposed talk on pro-choice in vaccinations at this year’s Woodford Folk Festival. As a regular attendee for many many years I have enjoyed many so-called controversial conversations on a myriad of topics, and do not see this as any different. It is the presentation of the ‘other’ side that is often missing in many mainstream conversations, which is so badly needed to help those seeking information find the links to make an informed decision.

As a mum of three, and a scientists, I spent many hours researching this topic and made the decision to not vaccinate. All three children have been healthy and happy, and in fact have had brushes with some diseases that are vaccinated against – curiously it was the vaccinated kids that contracted the disease (and presumably spread them), which left me extremely puzzled given the pro-vaccination claims. I am happy with my choices, and knew many who are in the process of doing their own research. Please don’t succumb to the threats and allow other ideas to be suppressed.

Yours sincerely

CD

re the AVN”s Meryl Dorey speaking at the festival

Dear Bill,

I am a Maleny local and have attended the Maleny Folk Festival since 1989/90 many, many times. You would know my face if you saw me.

Please Bill don’t bow to these damn skeptics and their draconian and threatening ways. Please allow Meryl to speak. If the other side of the vaccination debate is not allowed to be heard many more people will blindly think that there are no problems with vaccination until it affects their family. WE simply cannot stifle debate – while the drug companies are not telling the whole truth and to anyone (esp anyone who may actually have evidence) who may suggest other than their touted lines are open to castigation and humiliation in the public arena. Or as they are doing with Homeopathy – (my profession) carrying out a concerted plan to discredit and outlaw this valid type of treatment regardless of the scientific evidence that shows it works. These skeptic associations have links and funding that have already been in some cases traced back to drug company funding – and they hide behind the banner of so called legitimate science – however true science does not have a closed mind and this is not what is happening.

These same people have been scouring our websites to find anything that they can report homeopaths to the TGA – even if it is erroneously taken out of context to suit their needs and then leave the practitioner to have to fight their way out of the allegations that are made ‘anonymously’ by these cowardly people. They say they are out there to ‘save people’ however their closed mind is far more dangerous than any suggestion by the AVN that we need to look at the evidence that is mounting about vaccination.

Please, Please don’t bow to their pressure. Allow freedom of information

Many thanks for your time.

Regards

PA

AVN presentation

Hi There

I really don’t have much time to write to you, my computer’s collapsed and I’m at my Mum’s using hers, my three children are patiently waiting for their lunch as I type!

But, this issue is so important to me that I wanted to write to you and let you know that I fully support the work of Meryl Dorey and the AVN in distributing information on vaccination, on choices for vaccination and our legal rights and responsibilities as individuals and parents, not only that but Meryl and the AVN are staunch defenders and protectors of our health rights here in Australia. Their information and voice must be heard!

In some ways it’s not even a matter of “to vaccinate or not” ; it’s a matter of freedom for people to become as diversely informed as possible to make the choice they believe is best for the wellbeing of themselves and their families.

My husband and I chose about 10 years ago that we would not have any of our children vaccinated. My oldest child is now 9, I have another 6 and another 4. None of them have ever presented with ANY of the diseases vaccinations are supposed to protect against even thought they’ve been surrounded by cousins, childhood friends and children in playgroup and kinder that have still managed to contract whooping cough, chicken pox and measles even though they’ve been fully vaccinated!

Whatever your personal choice, it’s important to have as much information as you can.

I’ve said many times to my vaccinating and non vaccinating friends who are parents, we all want what’s best for our children, none of us want to harm them, I don’t want to harm my children and I think not vaccinating is best.

Some of my dearest friends are staunch vaccinators from a medical background, they think vaccinating is best. How could any of us make an informed choice without diverse information from all sides of the debate.

And to be a little facetious, why do proponents of vaccination try so hard to stop Meryl and the AVN, after all of them and their children and families are ‘protected’ because they’ve been vaccinated, and all us ‘uneducated unvaccinators’ will all die out through catching all the diseases we haven’t been vaccinated for and then the world will be safe!

Please do let Meryl hold her presentation, there’s such an imbalance of information in this debate, there are so many vested interests and so many quick and easy ways the government could stop this debate immediately if vaccines were safe and effective, they merely need to start disclosing the vaccine status of everyone who gets diseases, and gather the statistics of a percentage of unvaccinated people who get diseases. If the AVN’s so wrong they need not rely on boycotts, vicious emails and campaigns, they could just prove it!

Regards from a very content Conscientious Objector

LD

Support for Meryl Dorey

The Vaccination issue:

I write to thank you for inviting Meryl Dorey to speak at your festival and confirm it is essential the public learn the “other side”  of the vaccination issue  ..

Meryl is an excellent speaker .. her aim is to enable parents to make an “informed choice” regarding vaccination .. to encourage them to “research” the pros and cons of vaccinations instead of blindly adhering to the limited information their GP gives them

I have worked in the medical profession all of my adult life and have met very many physicians who do not vaccinate their own children but because of peer pressure continue to vaccinate the children of “others” accepting payment along the way for so doing .. it is a brave physician whose ethics prevent them from following this path but I assure you there are many in this country who are aware of the adverse side effects  of vaccinations and whose integrity spells out every aspect of vaccination to unwary and uninformed parents to give them every opportunity to make  an “informed choice”

Vaccinations are given on the first day of birth before the immune system is developed .. I refer to the Hep B vaccination now mandated for every child instead of those just at risk from an infected mother and for a child born with a compromised immune system this puts them on the  downward slope .. followed by regular vaccinations which further weaken an already struggling immune system until at approx 14 months the child  regresses completely, loses speach, awareness, cognition, no longer meets  their early childhood milestones and is subsequently diagnosed as being on  the Autism spectrum .. included in this spectrum are those children who  are in severe pain, resulting in reactions of uncontrollable behaviour because they are unable to speak and say what hurts .. their poor parents at wit’s  end do not know how to help them and at this stage wish they had been better informed !

I am surrounded by hundreds of children in whom this scenario has developed and it is a very very sad indictment on our Govt an our medical profession that they will not “listen” to parents and experts like Meryl Dorey who are all to familiar with the tragedy that has developed in the current generation of children and is set to increase with every passing year UNTIL common sense prevails and vaccinations are scaled back or given when the child is older and has developed a viable immune system better able to counteract the horrendous contents of vaccines .. especially those that are combined to cover multiple perceived illnesses

Meryl has researched for years and is perhaps the most informed person in this country .. she very much needs to be heard because it is only when a child experiences an adverse reaction to vaccines that the parents become aware of the inherent dangers and by then it is TOO LATE

One of my own grandchildren succumbed in this way .. tragic to witness  and appalling in the effect it had on parents .. subsequent grandchildren have not been vaccinated and are very healthy neurotypical children with strong immune systems because “informed choices” were made

If all parents in this country were aware and could make an “informed choice” I am positive the levels of autism and sickness in the current generation of children would vastly diminish .. yes there are other external factors why so many children now have health problems but there is more awareness of environmental toxins and no awareness of the dangers vaccinations  can present

Sincerely

JB

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neena Love

Hypocrisy – thy name is ‘SAVN’

It’s been a busy time here at the AVN so I haven’t been able to keep this blog as up-to-date as I would like, but the events of the last few days have been so ‘interesting’, I felt it would be a good time to share with you what has been going on.

As most of you would know, the organisation, Stop the AVN (SAVN) was set up specifically to force our group, which has been established since 1997, to close. Their tactics have included spurious complaints to government bodies and the media; the establishment of websites whose specific goal is to harass and denigrate anyone who believes that vaccination should be a matter of free and informed choice; death threats by phone, email and via Facebook; the sending of such vile pornography, it cannot be shared without blacking out most of the image (such as the letter below which was sent to my home address 3 times; trust me – you do NOT want to see the image that I’ve blacked out!); making threatening and abusive calls and sending abusive emails to our advertisers and professional members, trying to force them to withdraw their support of the AVN. There is more, but this is a good start in describing how these people operate and why, what they are doing now, is the height of hypocrisy!

One of the first things that SAVN did in their attempt to shut our organisation down was to establish several Facebook pages. They used our logo (and even called one of their pages Australian Vaccination Network which caused no end of confusion). Facebook made them remove our logo when I complained to them about this unauthorised use of our trademarked image, but they then took a ‘piece’ of our logo and used that until one of their own members who obviously has some experience with graphic design, made them a logo of their own based on the symbol in the movie, Ghostbusters.

From the beginning, SAVN made use of screen shots from our AVN Facebook page to attack not just myself, but others who posted there. It has become so scary for some of our members to share their knowledge and support on our Facebook page that they have either stopped posting altogether or signed up under assumed names so they will not be victimised in this way. Many people use their children’s photos as their Facebook profile picture and they started to be afraid that their children would be victimised as a result so they removed the images and put something more generic up as their profile picture. Others increased the security of their Facebook page, blocking access to anyone who was not already their friend on Facebook. All in all, it had reached a point where what we had established as a safe place to discuss research, experiences and news about vaccinations had become anything but.

AVN members began to complain to Facebook about these attacks and to ask that Facebook uphold their terms of service in regards to SAVN. Facebook says that:

Note: groups that attack a specific person or group of people (e.g. racist, sexist, or other hate groups) will not be tolerated. Creating such a group will result in the immediate termination of your Facebook account.

Despite these appeals to Facebook to stand by their own terms, nothing was done about the SAVN pages and their vile, abusive and harassing posts about the AVN, myself and our members.

Facebook also claims the following:

3- Safety

We do our best to keep Facebook safe, but we cannot guarantee it. We need your help to do that, which includes the following commitments:

  1. You will not bully, intimidate, or harass any user.
  2. You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.

Well, people from the SAVN page have done all of these things – many times – and in many places. For instance, several of our members were sent incredibly violent pornographic images directly via Facebook. One of the images was forwarded to me and it was a shocker! It depicted a sexual act with a corpse. It was too horrendous to even begin to describe.

We showed this image to a university professor who is familiar with this area and he said that just showing that image was an offence – let alone sending it to someone else.

Facebook was informed of this by the recipients and they did absolutely nothing. So much for their claims to want to “keep Facebook safe”! Oh, and by the way, apart from being a member of the SAVN page (to be fair, SAVN did kick this person off after they were alerted to his abusive messages), this person works for a vaccine manufacturer. The company was also informed about his violent pornographic posts and to the best of our knowledge, nothing was done.

It had reached a point where you could set a stop watch between the time when someone posted something on the AVN’s Facebook page and the time when SAVN would screenshot it and put it on their page to tear down the person who wrote it – generally 5 minutes was all it took. It became obvious that these people had no real argument to fall back on. Indeed, abuse and harassment is their stock in trade.

Look at this example of a screenshot of one of my posts to the AVN page. This post was discussing an article from another website showing that experts who had testified that parents had killed their babies were now being discredited and it appeared that something other than child abuse – in fact, vaccines and pharmaceutical drugs – may have been the real reason for these children’s deaths. SAVN took this screen shot and below is what they made of it:

Is this the way to carry on a debate about vaccination? And whilst some of our opponents act independently of SAVN and without their knowledge or endorsement, SAVN is the most visible and active group opposing freedom of vaccination choice and part of a wider campaign that has been trying for some time to shut up any debate on this issue.

Several days ago, after hearing from yet more of our members about how they were not comfortable posting on our page because they did not want to leave themselves open to abuse, I decided to go through the SAVN page and find out what they were up to. What I found appalled me! Let’s just say that anything and everything that was on the AVN page was considered fair game for their abusive handling and I know that my words, my images and my posts are my own and they have no right to use them for any purpose without my express permission.

In two hours, I filed approximately 50 copyright claims against various Facebook members for using screenshots of my posts without my permission. I also filed reports against people who had used vile language to attack me – there were many attacks against others, but it was not up to me to report those – I only stuck to the ones that attacked me personally.

The upshot was that Facebook took down all of the posts and from what I understand, suspended a couple of the accounts for being repeat offenders. Don’t worry though, those people just set up new accounts and came back on and the SAVN page is still live.

The funny part is, that SAVN is trying to say that what I did was wrong and amounts to censorship. They say that I am denying their freedom of speech and until they can work out how to get around these regulations, they have made their page private so that no nasty pro-health choice people can read what they are writing and nobody can join unless and until they find the secret handshake required to prove you are a true believer in ‘science’.

I’ll tell you why this is so funny – I think you will agree with me that the irony and the hypocrisy in this situation is painfully obvious!

First, in regards to the freedom of speech and censorship issues, Ken McLeod, one of the founding and most active members of SAVN and the original complainant to the HCCC 2 years ago, stated in his complaint (which you can read in full by clicking here) that:

E- The AVN is not protected by any right of free speech.

Well, if the AVN and its membership are not protected by that right, why should SAVN be? Of course, this is a spurious argument because everyone in Australia is entitled to the free and open expression of ideas and debate – they are simply not entitled to harass, threaten, use pornography and foul language or any of the other things that SAVN does on a regular basis. They are not entitled to slander and defame either.

The membership of SAVN seem to feel that freedom of speech is only available to those who agree with them, however. To illustrate this fact, just prior to making their page private, some members of SAVN had been gloating that their tactic of calling into question not only my own ability to comment on this issue, but the ability, intelligence and truthfulness of all members of the AVN was working. They felt that due to their efforts to call us into question, nobody in the media would be contacting the AVN for comments on this issue any longer and therefore, they would no longer have to worry about the ‘false balance’ of journalists who wanted to discuss both sides of the vaccination debate. So much for freedom of speech and open access to information!

Second, they claimed that the complaints to Facebook were illegal and an abuse of policy.

Hmmmm, I find that to be interesting.

About a year or so ago, several members of our Facebook page started their own site called, Stop the AVN Exposed. They did this without my knowledge or involvement though they did invite me to view the pages and I did join for that purpose.

On this site, they took screenshots of some of the SAVN members’ posts and criticised them in much the same way that SAVN was criticising the posts of the AVN. It didn’t take more than a week or two but Facebook actually took the Stop the AVN Exposed site down due to complaints from SAVN members that the site had only been set up to attack them. Incredible double-standard on both the part of Facebook and SAVN.

So now, when the shoe is on the other foot, SAVN is crying to mama that it isn’t fair!  The AVN has gone and spoiled all of their fun and they are not going to come out and play any more until Facebook says they are sorry and returns all of their vile posts to where they were previously.

Well, I applaud Facebook for finally, after so many months of inaction, doing something to protect the innocent parents who frequent the AVN Facebook page and who only want a safe place where they can discuss an issue that is vital to the health of their families. My biggest complaint is that they took so long to do it and that they still have not made SAVN abide by Facebook’s terms and conditions when it comes to their bullying, intimidation and harassment of another organisation via their page – all of which is in direct contravention to Facebook’s own rules.

Stop the AVN has used every dispicable means possible to silence and villify the AVN. For them to call foul now is the height of hypocrisy.

What you say defines who you are

It’s said that you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep. Well, I think the same can be said about an organisation.

Stop the AVN, the group that was established to force the shut-down the Australian Vaccination Network, a legally-operating, volunteer-run health and vaccine safety watchdog, proves this point perfectly.

When I was due to speak in South Australia recently, members of this group sent letters to the venue, asking them to cancel the event and giving descriptions of both myself and the AVN which were based on their own twisted distortions.

I believe that if you read their letters, you will get a very good idea of exactly what they are on about and most of it would not be considered – normal – in a civilised society.

For those who are interested, the claims that they make about my personal beliefs were sourced by following links on articles that I have posted. I do not endorse the things they say I do, nor have I ever done so.

These people have outright lied (as anyone who has ever contacted us for support would know – to accuse us of abusing them or providing links to pornography is more than absurd!) but slander seems to be their method of operation and they do not let a little thing like the truth stand in their way.

This is a selection of 5 letters out of dozens sent to different venues where the AVN was due to hold seminars. To the best of my knowledge, all 5 of these authors have made official complaints about the AVN to the HCCC; only one of which was provided to me by that organisation.

These are the ‘rational’ and ‘sane’ people who the HCCC took notice of when compiling their report on the AVN. After you have read this, read a copy of our final response to the HCCC and ask yourself what sort of evidence the HCCC relied upon to make their decision.

Dear Pastor,

It is my understanding that Meryl Dorey is scheduled to give a talk at your church. I urge you to reconsider the invitation for the following reasons:

  • Meryl Dorey and the AVN are anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists and are currently under investigation by the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission.
  • Meryl Dorey subscribes to many conspiracy theories, including:
  • The Queen and Presdient Obama are reptilian aliens with a thirst for human blood.
  • There is a European based “Illuminati” that plan a mass cull of human beings by way of the swine flu vaccine.
  • Vaccines given at birth are a cover to implant micro-chips into people for the purpose of mind control.
  • Meryl Dorey denies the existence of the AIDS virus which has killedm millions.
  • The AVN has caused, by way of their rhetoric, a sharp decline in vaccinations in the Northern Rivers region of NSW and as a result there is an epidemic of whooping cough, which has already cost the lives of 3 children.

Some of my claims against Meryl Dorey may seem outlandish, but they are made in good faith after having read her own words and having been provided with ample evidence, which I am more than happy to forward to you if you wish to investigate the matter further.

If you were expecting a frank, balanced discussion by the AVN on the subject of vaccination, prepare to be sorely disappointed. They are, purely and simply, dangerous conspiracy theorists with no regard for the health of children. They serve only their own agenda.

As well as a complaint to the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission, which is being investigated, there are also letters fo support with additional evidence against the AVN being submitted, as well as a petition in support which has so far garnered more than 400 signatures.

Ultimately, the decision is yours, but I must strongly recommend that the invitation extended to Meryl Dorey to talk at your church be rescinded. As mentioned above, I am only too happy to provide you with additional material upon request.

Yours sincerely,
DR

To the XXXXXXX Congregation,

I am writing to you with regards to an upcoming seminar to be conducted by Meryl Dorey of the AVN, on the 19th of August.

I was attracted to the AVN because they appeared to have an objective of providing credible information, allowing people to make informed choices with regards to health and particularly vaccination, so I joined their group on Facebook.

Unfortunately my experience was not a happy one. Much of the information I found was inaccurate, anecdotal and deceptive. On assessment I came to the conclusion that the Australian Vaccination Network is not about informed choice, but rather promoting anti vaccination through hysteria and fear mongering.

When I requested the references to the material they presented, I was presented with pictures of dead babies, abused, provided with links to pornography and eventually banned from their group, simply because I politely and respectfully asked questions.

My observation is that the AVN attracts a following of ‘true believers’ that are absolutely closed minded to the possibility that they may be deceived, deluded or just plain wrong. Anyone critical of the AVN is demonised and individuals portrayed as either good or evil. Their ideology makes exaggerated claims for possessing airtight logic, making
it appear as an absolute truth with no contradictions.

These are the attributes of a cult and I suggest that you reconsider the seminar.

Of further concern is that members of the AVN Facebook group are also members of an openly anti vaccination group called Vaccination Information Network (VINE), who subscribe to a bizarre conspiracy theory, based around microchips concealed in vaccines that will enable the Illuminati to control the human race.

I am sorry I am not making this up.

Please feel free to contact me, should you wish to discuss this further.

Warm Regards
GH

Dear Pastor XXXX

I refer to the forthcoming seminar to be presented by Ms Meryl Dorey, of the Australian Vaccination Network, on Wednesday August 19th, 7:15 which I understand will be conducted at your Church’s premisis.

This is to inform you that Ms Dorey and the AVN have maintained a consistent anti-vaccination campaign for over 15 years, and her writings have been roundly condemned by experts in the field of immunology and the medical profession. Indeed she and the AVN are being investigated by the New South Wales Health Care Complaints Commission for providing incorrect medical advice. See http://scepticsbook.com/.

Anti-vaccination lobbyists, including Ms Dorey and the AVN, have been condemned by Nobel laureate Professor Peter Doherty, who has said that Childhood Vaccination Denial is a “Crime Against Humanity.”

You should be aware that Ms Dorey has admitted on television that she has no qualifications whatever, apart from “having a brain.”

The parents of baby Dana McCaffery (who died of Pertussis this year) have written that they are outraged that without their knowledge, “Meryl Dorey rang the Director of the North Coast Area Health Service Public Health Unit on 12 March 2009 seeking details on Dana’s death and contended the department had misled the public.”

They go on:
“Even after I told Meryl what happened to Dana at the (TV) debate, a few weeks afterwards I found an AVN blog with members making false claims that stated they had information she was sick from birth, immune-compromised from the HiB vaccine or died as a result of the antibiotics or medical treatment she received.

“Not only is no-one privy to this information, it is wrong and extremely distressing. In the latest Living Wisdom, Meryl got every fact wrong about Dana – her age, when she died, where she might have caught it, when the last death was and uses language to downplay the seriousness.” [i][i]

So, Meryl Dorey is not above the most egregious invasions of privacy, she is quite capable of misrepresenting the facts to suit her agenda, while engaging in wild conspiracy theories. MS Dorey is not a qualified health professional and her presentations are completely unbalanced. She is no expert, will not present good science or a balanced view of vaccination issues, her presentation will damage the reputation of your church, and will be detrimental to the health of the children in your community.

I ask to you to reconsider your decision to make your premises available to the Australian Vaccination Network.

Yours sincerely,

KM

Dear Sir/Madam,

RE: Seminar 19 August 2009 – Australian Vaccination Network
XXXXChurch

It has come to my attention that the above seminar is now being held at the XXXXX Church, XXXX SA after the original host, the XXXX, decided that it was not appropriate for the school to be associated with the above seminar. (Meryl’s note: The school cancelled after receiving these same letters. The cancellation had nothing to do with the appropriateness of our information and everything to do with intimidation at the hands of SAVN.)

I would like to bring to your attention what the Australian  Vaccination Network is about, citing evidence from their own discussion forums and seminars. In contrast to their misleading name, the Australian Vaccination Network, the AVN, is an outspoken anti-vaccination group that subscribes to various conspiracy  theories.

Their anti-vaccination stance is quite disturbing. The president, Meryl Dorey, describes vaccines as “instruments of death”, and  cites the recent measles epidemic and swine flu pandemic as being deliberately manufactured. Further to that, she presents articles outlining that the swine flu vaccine is a conspiracy to infect the global population with mind-control nanobots to inflict genocide at a later date. This article was originally written by the well-known conspiracy theorist, David Icke, and the article goes on to mention the illuminati, reptilian overlords and the like. (original article: http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191)

In addition, Meryl Dorey and the AVN also support AIDS denialism, as can be evidenced here http://www.aras.ab.ca/rethinkers.php The doubters on this page do not believe that HIV causes AIDS, that AIDS medicines extend life, that AIDS is heterosexually transmitted, or that HIV and AIDS are decimating Africa and Asia. I note that this stance is in direct conflict with the following Lutheran Church policy http://www.lca.org.au/resources/csbq/hivaids1.pdf

At present the AVN and Meryl Dorey are under investigation by the Health Care Complaints Commission after a complaint was lodged that the AVN is a threat to public health.

I ask that your church review its decision to allow a destructive conspiracy theory group such as the AVN use of your facilities, or to be associated with your organisation.

Yours Sincerely,

CB

Medical Bastardry

I just received a call from the mother of a 2 year old boy. This woman has been a member of the AVN for a couple of years and is very well informed about both vaccination and health – as are most of our members.

Her son was recently hospitalised with what turned out to be salmonella (the department of health is pretty sure that he was exposed to this via food he was given on the airplane going on holiday recently). As a result, he became very dehydrated and needed to be brought to hospital.

The mother was in the emergency room with him for over 20 hours before he was admitted and by then, she was extremely tired with looking after this sick little boy all that time.

About an hour after they were brought to the hospital room, the hospital paediatrician came in to check on the boy. The first thing he said when he looked at the child’s chart was, “You know, if your son had been vaccinated, he never would have gotten salmonella.”

The mother was confused, as you can imagine! She was also at her most vulnerable with worrying about her son and lack of sleep.

“Oh.” she said to the doctor. “I didn’t know that salmonella was part of the childhood vaccination schedule.”

“Yes,” said the doctor. “It’s part of the DPT vaccine.”

The mind boggles! Either this doctor really believes that DPT stands for salmonella vaccine or he was just out and out lying to try and bully this mother. Either way, he is being incredibly irresponsible trying to speak in this way to a woman whose child is very ill!

The mother is considering filing a complaint with the hospital about her treatment and I think she should.

Just because someone is a doctor is no reason for them to treat anyone like this. Especially when he is completely wrong in what he is saying!

Boy taken away from parents who refused to feed him junk food

Social services gone mad – and an apathetic populace that allows this sort of institutional abuse. Losing custody of your child for 4 months because they are not gaining weight according to some government-approved scale (and failure to thrive is one of the many side effects known to be associated with vaccines…) is abuse of both the parents and this child. Imagine the confusion of this poor little boy, ripped away from loving parents and put with strangers just because his parents refused some doctor’s advice on feeding. And what training do doctors get in nutrition anyway?

Like many toddlers, Zak Hessey was a fussy eater who refused his mother’s healthy home cooking.

Concerned about his falling weight, his parents sought the advice of doctors. That simple act triggered a shocking chain of events that led to the youngster being put into foster care for four months.

Paul and Lisa Hessey believe in the long-term benefits of healthy eating and rejected advice to feed their two-year-old son high-calorie snack food such as chocolate, crisps and cakes.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232611/Mother-boy-snatched-social-workers-refusing-doctors-advice-feed-chocolate-crisps.html#ixzz0YkU365Pe